This is the Flowermate vaporizer for dry herb, and this is what I currently consider to be the best portable vape under $100.
There are a few different versions to choose from: the standard V5.0S, the Mini V5.0S, and the Pro – Watch my video review above for all the details you need to know.
The V5.0S is the best-selling model and is a really good value for the price. Performance and vapor quality are both pretty decent, and I’d say average or slighty above-average for a portable.
UPDATE 2018: This vape now has a slightly different look with a few small upgrades, but it’s still the same price at $80!
So to use it, pack the chamber about 80 percent full or so, screw the mouthpiece on and then you’re gonna turn it on with that one silver button on the side, clicking it five times will start the heating process. So the standard model and the Mini, these have 3 heat settings built in. There’s a low, medium and high and the lights are blue, purple, red and the correlating temperatures are 385 Fahrenheit, 400 and 415. So when it heats up to the operating temperature that you have set, the light is gonna turn solid, it’s gonna stop blinking, and now you can just start taking draws. So it does heat up to operating temperature fairly quickly, so I like that. That’s really good. I kinda of prefer the medium heat setting for the best overall experience. It’s kinda like the best balance between the most vapor production and then the smoothest. So to get to medium while it’s on, just hold down that power button for like 2 seconds and then the light’s gonna turn purple. It’s gonna start blinking and then when it’s solid purple in just a couple of seconds, it’s at the medium temperature.
Now when you’re pulling from it, the draw resistance isn’t really bad, I’d say it’s average. It’s not completely free flowing but you’re not gonna feel too much restriction. So most people aren’t gonna notice anything wrong with it. I think it’s good, I have no problems with that. So from an almost full packing, you should be able to get roughly a dozen draws before your material is gonna be spent. You’re gonna know it’s done when you stop getting good vapor from it and the taste is really completely gone, and it kinda tastes like burnt popcorn or whatever. This vape does do a good job of evenly vaping your material though so when it comes out, so when you take it out, it’s gonna be a nice uniform brown color, there’s not gonna be hot spots or anything so that’s always a good sign.
Vapor production as you can see from my session clip is quite good. Vapor quality and taste is like a little above average, ya know, it’s pretty good. I would say that the flavor is nice and smooth for most of the session. Like I said, medium is the setting I prefer to vape on, that’s the setting I’m vaping on in this clip. And it’s pretty enjoyable overall, ya know, up until the last quarter of the session when the flavor kinda trails off and it might feel a little hot, scratchiness might start to creep in but I mean, for the price point this vape being around 100 bucks, you can’t really get cheaper than that and still get a decent product as far as herbal vaporizers go. So I’m pretty impressed with this one.
The build quality is pretty good considering the low price. It’s not fantastic. The sliding doors on the top and bottom- they seem like the only part of it that really feels cheap or anything and I have a problem with the bottom cover like falling off my Mini one for some reason. So maybe that’s an area to address, that metal ring around the top, it does get super hot, ya know, after vaping for like 10, 15 minutes. So you really don’t want to touch it. I did touch it by accident a few times and burned myself so always touch the glass part and then when you wanna take the mouthpiece out after a session, like to store it, you can push down on the glass while you twist and that should get the whole metal piece out also.
Now the standard model, the V5.0S and the Pro model, the full size ones that have two internal batteries in there, battery life with these is really good, it’s like an hour and a half to two hours of actual usage, that’s gonna vary depending on what temperature you like to vape at but that is my average around medium temperatures. So in summary, these are very decent vapes. They’re very inexpensive for the price, it’s really hard to beat ‘em. I think the performance is above average and vapor quality & production are both good. So if you don’t want to spend a lot, I do recommend this. I think it’s a very good option. If you want to pick one of these up, check out the store I recommend. I appreciate you watching and listening, and stay up!
This product is not for me. I have severe insomnia and it didn’t help like a good ol joint. When I reached out to the vender that I purchased it from (not here) they are not ghosting me and I’m out over $100. But it’s not about the money, the part that disappoints me the most is the misleading videos and information you get online about this product. You get absolutely no smoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No matter what setting you have it at. Not that the smoke makes the difference if the device works. Please if you have a condition such as mine don’t purchase this machine thinking it will work for you because it won’t.
Had three big ones and two minis. The mini was great in every respect except they only last three or four months.The big ones dont get as hot. Usb charging is the worst problem.The connections are cheap and break. The Starry lasted a year because it has removable batteries. That was at least three times longer than flowermates. They will fix or replace the first one then they will not follow up on warranty even with photos and receipt.
Just bought the PRO.What a dog! No heat,no vape,no nothing but a whole in my wallet! avoid this one…
what about the hybrid x?
I will say if you are looking for huge clouds this probably isn’t for you. But if you are a flavor chaser like myself & not interested in huge showy clouds but good clean extraction, give it a try.
I found that if you put one of the Davinci IQ glass spacers in the FMP v5 in really turns it into a flavor powerhouse. The combination of lower draw resistance/better air flow, pushing the herb closer to the heat source, and heating it from underneath, while making the pack size smaller, makes a huge difference in performance. Now I can squeeze tasty flavor out of weed I previously thought was underwhelming, and tasty weed is now overwhelming in flavor, without having to drop the temps to 365’….I just let it rip at 392′ & I was pretty stunned at how much flavor I got at that temp, while getting a good THC punch as expected. The glass spacers work much better in the FMP v5 than they do in the Davinci, that’s for sure.
Will the Divinci spacer fit in the Flowermate Nano?
I bought this vape back in Sept of 2017. Prior to this, I had an excellent Arizer Extreme, but I wanted something more portable. After 11 years, my Arizer died, but that’s pretty impressive. I used it a lot. The heater wore out. It can be replaced, but I want something portable that doesn’t take up counter space. (I live in the SF Bay Area, so space is expensive!!!)
When my Arizer worked, I used the Flowermate to vape high CBD/low THC herb (ACDC strain) in the morning. In the evenings, to treat insomnia and to get high, I used my Arizer with high THC/low CBD herb. I packed the elbow on the Extreme and got super fat clouds out of the smallest 200mg load.
Sometimes the highs were so intense, they made me paranoid. Felt like I was going to die for the first 20 minutes, because it hit me like a freight train. This has less to do with the strain and more to do with the clinical route, in my experience. Trust me, it’s a good problem to have with a vape. If it can get you paranoid high, you can always take smaller puffs, unless you like the thrill. Sometimes I do!
The Flowermate never gave me great vapor, but for CBD that’s OK, but not ideal. There’s no high with CBD, and “sipping” works fine for medicinal use of CBD. It’s much more bioavailable than orally administered CBD. That said, it is obnoxious that it takes almost 30 minutes to vape a very small herb pod of CBD. It reminds me of Sinbad’s material about McDonald’s milkshakes! It is a similarly frustrating experience. That 30 minutes to vape a load is a real time thief. At best, I can watch the news in the morning while I vape. When I am in a rush, it really throws a monkey wrench in my day.
When my Arizer broke (after 11 years of service, mind you), I was forced to use the Flowermate for high THC/low CBD herb. It’s not very effective. After 5 months of experimentation, I found the best possible way to use this device, and it involves the herb pod. Yes, I tried packing the chamber all the way and tamping it down. I just wasted half a gram of herb whenever I tried this. Still got weak vapor. I may as well just flush my herb down the toilet. Smoking is more efficient.
Anyway, here’s the only way I could get decent vapor out of this. Keep in mind, I am vaping top shelf bud from California dispensaries. I decarb it in an Ardent Lift and grind it in an electric coffee grinder. In any decent vape, this is a recipe for clouds! But not in the Flowermate. Anyway, here’s how to do it:
First, don’t use any of the screens. Not the one on the bottom of the chamber or in the mouth piece.
– pack/tamp the herb pod with bone dry, finely ground herb
– screw on the top of the herb pod
– put the herb pod in the Flowermate with the screen side up and screw on side down. This is the opposite of what the manufacturer says to do. (They don’t have a clue as to how to use this thing. I think they are only in it for the money, they don’t vape herb. If they do, they are newbies.)
– Put the collar on the mouthpiece, without the screen.
– Screw on the mouthpiece
– turn the vape up to 446°F/230° C (Most people vape way too low, based on bad information. There’s a slew of recent studies, in medical journals, that show that high temperature vaping is actually more effective and has fewer byproducts than low temperature vaping. It’s like people have to go from one extreme (smoking, dabs) to the other (ineffective low temp vaping). The studies show that 230° C is the most effective vape temp. You cannot tell based on the color of the AVB. Potent herb will take longer to vape and will be darker, regardless of temp. If you are truly at 230° C , you will not combust herb.)
– Wait about 30 seconds after the device has reached 446°.
– Tilt the Flowermate back so that the herb pod makes contact with the collar in the mouthpiece. This will force the warm air to pull through the material, making it more like a convection vape. There is only one orientation where this will work. You need to tilt it back such that the “caution hot” text on the top is right in front of your nose and readable. You should hear the pod slide down and make contact with the mouthpiece collar.
– take a gentle 2-3 second puff. Longer puffs produce less vapor, as the oven cools down. The weak oven and poor thermodynamics is a major problem with this thing.
Doing it this way, I could actually get thicker vapor, but no clouds. Heck, it is better than a Magic Flight. But I agree with Dave. It is a POS and I regret getting it. Weak vapor. Period.
Don’t be fooled into thinking you should not see vapor. A great vaporizer will give you clouds and you will get much more of an effect than with smoking. A great vape will get you high as F and save you big bucks on weed….
The tragedy of the Flowermate is that I went back to smoking. It is such an epic fail of a vape, I have been smoking herb for the past few months. The herb pods do make excellent reusable joint filters. Just wrap a paper around it, fill the cylinder and pack it. Great doob, and if you buy a Flowermate, you will probably be smoking doobs…
I ordered an Arizer Air II a few days ago, and it will be here in a few minutes. They made a very smart move in that their portable vapes are like packing the elbow in the Extreme. This gives fat hits without packing half a gram in the chamber.
I found this page because I felt a bit guilty about getting a new vape, when I just bought one back in September. Am I doing something wrong? I have tried every possible outcome, like in a quantum sense here, and it is weak vapor any way you slice it. Maybe the thick clouds exist in an alternate, parallel universe? Probably not… I see I am not the only one who has come to this conclusion.
I like Arizer vapes and I will remain loyal to the brand. I think there are a lot of other good vapes out there. I just haven’t had any luck. Over the past 12 years, I have bought the Arizer Extreme, iolite, vapor genie, magic flight and the Flowermate. The Arizer was the only decent one. The studies on specific makes/brands of vapes also find that Arizer makes the most efficient vapes. (No, Arizer did not pay for the study, it was conducted by medical researchers in Switzerland and published in a medical journal.)
My Air II just showed up… Anyone want to buy a used Flowermate v5 Pro? ;-)
It will be so good to get thick, stony clouds again and sleep like a log. It will be great to have my morning CBD in a few minutes, so I can be more productive.
The Flowermate may seem inexpensive, but you will waste herb and time.
They could improve it. Just copy Arizer. The mouthpiece and herb chamber should be unified, so that warm air can only go through the material. There’s some thermal issues they need to solve. It cools rapidly when you take a puff. You’re really vaping several degrees below what the display indicates.
Whatever they do, I won’t come back. I have a collection of useless vapes. Learn from my mistakes!
The only problem I have with the FM Nano is the air restriction is so tight it’s hard to get vapor (or air) at all. And the problem lies in the mouthpiece…two extremely tiny screens with tiny holes so once that herb is hot it’s no time before all those holes are plugged up.
So do the pods help at all with easing up the air resistence?
Useless piece of crap. Stick with a standard vape and buy a dry herb/oil tank. I have the V5.0 PRO. I’d never consider leaving the house with this unit. I’ve spent most of my time cleaning out the small, greasy herb chamber for ten puffs, each with very little payback. Addition accessories from Flowermate are way overpriced and ship at $15 even if the accessory weighs less than a gram. Most people are unwilling to admit to a mistake, hence, the positive reviews on this mod. I have a number of mods in my collection. The Flowermate is a pathetic mistake.
I couldn’t agree more. I didn’t research the Flowermate very well before I made the purchase. More fool me. After 9 months of experimenting with this thing, wasting a lot of herb, I gave up. $80 isn’t cheap when you’re wasting herb. I got tired of taking puff after puff, just getting a light buzz off of super potent herb. I went back to smoking.
It takes FOREVER to finish a load. I understand, all vapes are like an asymptote. After it heats up, you get clouds and they get smaller and smaller, but almost seem to diminish infinitely. But with this thing, it is 2-3 OK puffs, and like 40 weak ones, and you have to wait like 30 seconds between puffs. If you need to vape daily for medication, this is a bad choice. If you are an occasional vape user with low tolerance, it may be OK. I think you are still going to waste herb.
I ordered a different vape a few days ago. Just got here a few minutes ago. Time to unbox.
Smiss needs to go back to the drawingboard with this one. Just copy a design that works. If they beefed up the heater, improved the thermodynamics so it doesn’t cool down so much when you take a puff (do they even know how vapes are used?!? did they test it?!?) and made an herb pod that screws into the mouthpiece, they may have a great product that would undercut every other vape manufacturer.
This vape is as frustrating as a McDonald’s shake. Get viens popping out of my forehead for a little wispy puff…
I wish more people spoke up about this device. I did a little research and people said it is so great. It is their daily driver now. Really? Did someone who worked at Smiss post that?
Thank you for being honest, Dave.
After I bought my Flowermate and realized it was weak, I did more research. Yeah, you can see on YouTube, it is weak vapors. One reviewer begged people to help him get decent vapors from this thing, because he was continually wasting herb and not even getting a buzz.
It’s a POS. I wouldn’t use one of they paid me, and they are doing the payola/swag thing to sway reviewers.
Vapecritic — is this really a good vape? Really? I mean, come on…
How would this compare to a X max Starry?
Just bought the PRO.What a dog! No heat,no vape,no nothing but a hole in my wallet! avoid this one…
I’ve had the Flowermate V5.0S Vaporizer for a month now, and I really like it. Seems the vapor cloud is there just as it is in the video. No complaints from me. Going to purchase a V5.OS mini as a back up Thanks for the video
Anyone know if there’s a way to replace the batteries? I’ve examined it a little and find nothing obvious but didn’t really pull hard on it for fear of breaking it. I’m thinking you can’t. Anyone know for sure?
No answers to your question Ed? Very easy. Take the Flowermate in your hand and drop it into the garbage can. Pony up another hundy for Flowermate for a new piece-of-junk and you will have fulfilled the definition of insanity.
I HAVE PURCHASED TWO OF THE FLOWERMATE V50. TWICE NOW I HAVE HAD TO ORDER THE GLASS MOUTH PIECE. THE SILVER SLIDER WHICH STORE THE MOUTH PIECE IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. IT SLIDES OPEN AND THE PIECE FALLS OUT. VERY UNHAPPY THAT HAPPENS. I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO FIX IT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SCREWS TO FIX IT.
Thank you so much. I’m debating. I have been in search for a week now
What do wou think of the pro mini ?
I get no vapor from my v5 pro when I exhale, it’s my 1st vape so I’m not sure if it’s faulty or not. I get decent taste just no vapor at all on exhale is this normal? I see u blowing decent vapor
In his video he is sat in the best possible place for the light to reflect off the vapour to make it appear as if it’s producing more than it is and might not even be vaping weed in it either
I understand why you put your name as Anonymous, IF I was making idiotic comments like yours I would not want any one to know who I am either
That’s funny – his post makes perfect sense. If you think background and lighting can’t drastically change the impression of how much vapors being exhaled…well, you’re the idiot.
In some of these videos, it’s clear they’re vaping ecig eliquid instead of bud. Just way too much vapor. Not realistic at all.
No doubt he wants to make it look better than it is so he continues to receive free samples. This piece-of-crap produce very little vapour.
I tried it and I have gotten more if not the same amount of vapor seen in the video. It is a great vaporizer considering the price.
Make sure you pack it decently well in terms of amount and also how compact it is. Wait about 30 seconds to a minute before drawing.
You have to draw harder and slower. You can feel it in your lungs. I get a thick vapour like cigarette smoke. But I find the longer you haul, the more vapor gets into your lungs. Good luck.
Turn temp settings up. Make sure chamber has enough in in it .
I ordered Flowermate mini from Planet of Vapes but the top cannot be screwed on so Ive yet to try it. Ive emailed them but no reply yet and Im bummed cuz they advertise as having great protection from defects. Do you know a phone number I can reach them at?
good luck with that! they are almost impossible to contact…they give you the run around till the 14 days expire.I bought a totally defective vape from the (flowermate pro) and got several different mixed messages…it is starting to look like I am going to have to eat the hundred bucks…someone told me the POV now is NOT the original one and they have been bought out by some foreigners. hope you get a beeter response then me,I had to call PayPal..so far,nothing. as far as the Flowermate? a real POS!
Getting mine this week and I’m stoked. Haven’t had a vape in over ten years when they were all just plug in models.
I love mine
So you said this is a respectable vape for under $100 and the taste isn’t the best but still good. But how about the cleanliness of the vapor? Is it smooth, is there still no burning of your herb? And how well can it perform under colder temperatures?
Battery life will decrease when it has to heat a colder chamber, however I have used mine after being left in a cold car and had no issues.
The vape is amazing in all of those conditions, I’ve had mine a couple years and it still has a great battery and taste
Just bought the 5.0. My very first vaporizer. I hope it has a good effect on my poor aching lungs. its either a vaporizer, or quit altogether. Just used it for the first time. Not a lot of visible vapor, but boy does it work!
Actually when you see the vapor that’s blown out its wasted THC and terps and stuff
Flowermate v5 Pro vs DaVinci Ascent.
Whats the difference?
Is there a justification for the difference in price?
great review man. I was about to drop $199 for a DaVinci Ascent, saw some reviews saying it wasn’t worth the money and bam here I find this review. bought one on the spot, thanks again
Good price is 70,80,give or take.ive used mine 9 months.Works great. No reasom to buy amything elso,2,3 hundred is bull s–t ,This under a 100 ,just as good. Why the f do you feel good about making other companies rich????? F that
Taste on mine is great. As gaping goes you never get same taste as beginning. Never no matter what anyone says
Bullshit is exactly right. I mean if u spend 2 bills that’s damn near 3 Flowermates.
HI Bud or others – do you consider the Flowermate to be conductive or convective vaporizer. I recently bought a Smite Plus, which looks to be a rebranded version of the Flowermate Pro and its hard to tell. I don’t see the ceramic oven getting red, it looks like the heating element is below the bottom screen of the oven, so it looks like convective but not sure.
This goes to your differing recommendations on finest of grind and tamping the load between conductive and convective type vapes in general.
Hope someone can answer. Cheers
I was wondering if you have tried the preload pods for the Flowermate. I just ordered a the Flowermate V5.0S for my first machine. They now have pre-loadable pods. I was just wondering if they work. I read a review that said it eliminates having to clean the machine as much.
I tried the pod and it did not work for me, but I would have to try it again to know if they are useless.
Hi Bud, thanks for all the great reviews and info. I just got a Flowermate V5.0S. I have been filling the chamber about 80% full with herb that has gone through a MF finishing grinder. I tamp the herb down. Vaping on blue and purple only, I am not getting any clouds of vapor and after maybe three draws, my material is all a uniform dark brown and taste is funky.
Am I doing something wrong or could my Flowermate be defective?
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
Hey just a suggestion but there is an airflow opening at the bottom and whn its open it pulks too much air thru so the vape isnt as thick. I have the OS myself and have experienced this b4 and I noticed mine was wide open. I always make sure its shut.
prolly defective,many of them are
Great review of the various Flowermate vapes! Do you have any opinion on the Flowermate Vapormax V8? Also, any opinion on the Elevape SV?
Hey Bud, always digging your reviews, I am looking to purchase my first “real” vape after having used an E-Z Vape for a year in my college dorm. I don’t want to spend more than ~140 bucks. In your opinion which is “better” the Flowermate Pro or the Vapium Summit? Personally, I really value precise temperature control which is why I was pretty set on the flower mate, but when I saw how excited you were about the Summit in your review I was doubting my original decision. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Dude, I had a Vapium. Don’t know about the Flowermate, yet, but the Vapium was a BIG LOOSER ! Production, volume, everything. Used it a few times then it sat in the bottom of my drawer a year or two. Just tossed it the other day. There are lots of better vapes out there. Don’t waste your time or money !
Word of warning !
how would you compare it to the pax?
Bud, your my first resource when it comes to vaping. I wish I found your reviews sooner! It would have saved me lots of money!
I would like for you to add to completely make your session stealth, totally no aroma use the smoking buddy. Keep Up The Great Work.
hey Bud, thank you for all of your excellent reviews, I am getting a portable and was pretty set on the summit by Vapium because of the price and your positive review, but the 50$ difference makes me curious about the flower mate. What advantages does the summit have over the flower mate?
This is the fence I’m on too. I can’t decide if the Summit is worth its price over the Flowermate 5.0S.
Just looked that vape. I’d say its worth it. Ruggedness definitely counts for something. I have a flowermate, super happy with it,but if i need another vape id fully consider it.
Is it just me? When are mores going to have swappable batteries? ????
is the chamber size the same for each of these flowermate vapes or is the mini, for instance, smaller in the chamber department than the other, larger size flowermate options?
I know the battery length is different, but I am very interested in the chamber size. Thanks and I am doing my best to Stay Up.
so im gonna pickup a flower mate and have come to the conclusion to either pickup the regular v5.05 or the mini
what would you prefer and why
Regular cause of double battery, no question about it
Great reviews man, watched every single one! Keep up the good work!
I ‘m currently trying to decide if I should get a flowermate mini or a goboof alfa. How much better does the alfa perform regarding vapor quality and taste? Do you think it is worth it to pay a bit more for the alfa?
Bud, thanks again for your continued, excellent, and really incomparable reviews of these emerging product lines. I’ve been enjoying my Plenty for a couple of years now, but am always looking for a more portable experience. The cooling coil to me is a very useful feature because I feel less likely to cough with it in place. Maybe that is not true for everybody. I still think the Storz and Bickel portables are too costly for my consideration. Can you possibly compare for me briefly the Plenty and the Flowermate Pro which doesn’t have a coil in terms of overall experience? Flowermate Pro is presumably the top of the line from the latter manufacturer?
In your opinion, if trying to decide between the S and the pro, do you think the added temperature control/battery indicator/led light on the pro adds enough value to justify the slightly higher price tag? Specifically, how does it work on temperatures lower than the lowest temp on the S?
Also, I’ve heard the pro is missing the pass-through charging and bowl-led light that were on the S… How big were those issues for you?
Lastly, if the battery life on the mini is about half that of the others, how does the battery compare to other fully portable vapes? (I found it odd that the one with the worst battery life has the “power bank” option… Seems gimmicky.)
P.S. Thanks for all of your reviews… I’ve been looking forward to this one.
I’ve been looking forward to your flower mate vape reviews for a while, because as you know the brand has hit the vape scene by storm. I really liked your review, but I was wondering, in terms of accuracy and vapor production, how does the Pro, with the digital readout and temperature changer, compare to the DaVinci Ascent and other high quality vapes that allow full temperature control?